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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Necrosha... Reply with quote

Anybody reading this?

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kinda on the same side as you Kiko, especially after reading the many incarnations of Exiles, but for once we have a situation where the "good guy" version of a loved character is from alternate universe and the 616'ers have the evil version. My focus in Necrosha is the New Mutants. I love these characters and besides the original 5 and the remaining second genesis team (Storm, Kurt, Logan, Peter and Kitty), they are only ones that can look at each other and see family. There's a uniqueness to their story that Gen X and the New X-Men can't have for many reasons. I'm really curious as to what happens to them. I would like to have Rahne back with them as well but it's not about that. Will these people that are coming back, be back for good? That's my biggest question. Plus with Second Coming on it's way and Magneto up to something inregards to that. Will these pieces intersect? That's the bigger question.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was JUST thinking about:
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And... at the back of this X-Force Issue.... there is a little story with Nathan and big Hope...
and again....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly--how accessible is this book for someone who hasn't read much of X-Men? Because I've heard the 'cast people talk about it on the show and I always end up lost.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally, i feel the X books are relying too much on their continuity right now.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevieDisme wrote:
personally, i feel the X books are relying too much on their continuity right now.


Yeah--so far the only one I've been able to really get into and enjoy was Astonishing.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambitX wrote:
I was JUST thinking about:
Loved seeing Negasonic Teenage Warhead (Where's Brett?!?!?!), but she did not do much.


Right here! I knew it was going to be her before the page flip. She's the poster child for Genoshan genocide.

These back-from-the-dead events are definitely for the hardcore readers, the lifers. If marvel and dc hope to get any emotional reaction, it'll be from the people who were there for the history.

Such a shame that the speech balloons got fucked up on the Gen X panel, bc that could have been a little moment of gold.

I love the New Mutants story, but the art is really ruining it for me. X-Force's art is so much more appropriate for this story. Although there I sometimes lose what's going on in the shadows.

I LOVE that Dazzler is there when her sister 'ports in! Can't wait for next ish.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any big "rising from the dead" story will have to rely on history. That's almost the point of it. Blackest Night is relying deep amounts of DCU jems to drive home the emotional impacts.

I think it's cyclical. For the longest time they were trying not to reference history in the X-Men and plow ahead into new ground. I would say since New X-Men this was more or less the directive. It changed a little with Deadly Genesis but that was even new ground. X-men switching to X-Men: Legacy probably started the move to re-incorporate the past in a way that it doesn't beat you over the head but melds it into the current reality. Second Coming will be interesting to see how much of a push into new ground it will force the X titles.

I wish we would get a little more of the angst some of these newly living characters are going through in fighting their friends. This is what really sets this event apart from Blackest Night, in terms of the dead rising at least.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultimatexavior wrote:
Any big "rising from the dead" story will have to rely on history. That's almost the point of it. Blackest Night is relying deep amounts of DCU jems to drive home the emotional impacts.

I think it's cyclical. For the longest time they were trying not to reference history in the X-Men and plow ahead into new ground. I would say since New X-Men this was more or less the directive. It changed a little with Deadly Genesis but that was even new ground. X-men switching to X-Men: Legacy probably started the move to re-incorporate the past in a way that it doesn't beat you over the head but melds it into the current reality. Second Coming will be interesting to see how much of a push into new ground it will force the X titles.

I wish we would get a little more of the angst some of these newly living characters are going through in fighting their friends. This is what really sets this event apart from Blackest Night, in terms of the dead rising at least.

x a v i o r


I agree to a certain extent--the problem with comparing this to Blackest Night is that Blackest Night, while being knee-deep in the DCU lore, was able to explain it in ways that casual readers can understand. I mean, I never knew about the second Firestorm was around, or even that the original was dead, but you got enough from the one issue those characters were featured in that not only did you understand those characters, but made the possession of Firestorm and killing off his would-be fiancee one of the most emotional and horrifying parts of the series.

With this, it seems like they went, "Well, only the fanboys will read it, so what the fuck." I even liked what Casey did with what little I read of the beginning of his Legacy run and I'm still having problems.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a little bit of a problem with who they chose to bring back and who they didn't. I realize that you can't bring everyone back but c'mon, no Icarus, Wolf Cub, etc.? It just seems silly that a person that is building an undead mutant army wouldn't just bring everybody back.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree... I am underwhelmed by this!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the final word on whether any of the zombies sticking around? Last I heard no one other than Doug was sticking around, but heard also that a couple of others are staying alive after Necrosha as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I was really diggin' it, but the last two months it's just been draaaagging...

I think I'd like to see Thunderbird and Blink stick around.
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