Fuck You, Rob Liefeld!

[stevieDisme]

looks like that clever hack/hardcore christian, mr. liefeld is upset with the recent development of "his" character, shatterstar.

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you have to read through the comments too as rob feels the need to defend himself. in one post, he even calls shatterstar "shatt"....shatt?? what a douche!

i can't wait for him to undo this so that someone else can come along and redo it!! so, fuck you, rob!! ya piece of shit!

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Y'know....yeah.

[trombonehottie]

Ok, my favorite comment:

[howtaobrowncow]

[KidEternity]

Rob is a tool. Always "has been"........

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[Your Pal Eric]

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[marvel boy]

i saw this posted on ONTD the other day. isn't this the guy who can't draw feet?

[howtaobrowncow]

Feet, arms, crotches, teeth... but, yea, mainly feet.

Behold the wonder that is Rob Liefeld: The 40 Worst Rob Liefeld Drawings

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[merboy]

This is the Rob Liefeld who is currently drawing...umm....nothing. And writing...umm....oh yeah, nothing! (other than some awful book on the rapture no-one cares about and can't even come out on time...and jumping on the moderate success of a reboot of an X-Force rip-off no-one cares about).

This is the celebrated writer Peter David who redefined the Hulk and consisently wrote him for over a decade, has worked on practically every major book ever, is a best-selling and respected novelist and wrote a wonderful compelling book about writing comics which was praised by the likes of Stan Lee.

Ah, balance!

Let's not forget Rob DREW the character (well, sort of), he never actually wrote him (that I know of...apart from maybe the miniseries from the 2000's). I also don't see him getting pissed off about the changes made to any other of "his" characters. So why this particular one? Oh yeah, HOMOPHOBIA.

I think Rob had played fantastically well into PAD's hands too, everyone is talking about X-Factor. Well played, sir.

[nelly_nsh]

Yeah, I second (third? fourth?) that! I bought the issue on the rack and was proudly showing it to the comic shop owner (who hadn't yet heard anything about the "controversy") and i said "hey look, remember Shatterstar & Rictor (he said, no btw...), look what they're doing this issue." He looked at it got a big grin on his face and said.. "ohhhhh." Like he was genuinely impressed at the boldness. I don't know what the heck is wrong with Rob Liefeld, i think he is stuck in the 90s with that silly Levi's commercial...

[Lezzie Lindsay]

I think someone's in a pissy mood this week. No he's going off on his Twitter feed about how there's no good Wonder Woman stories. And how Alan Moore is a has been and what not....

Yikes. Liefeld's getting scary!

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[howtaobrowncow]

[ultimatexavior]

Rob does have a rep for being outspoken and opinionated. Back in the day it was considered young and rebellious, now it's just what to expect from Rob. The trouble is, is that he tends to alienate himself in and industry that is kinda small. PAD's 10 times more canny than Rob so I'm sure there will be so interresting Dialouge coming in X-Factor.

Part of me is a little sympathetic to Rob's broader view and kinda understands it. Years ago you create a character and you have ideas about how he/she works best and then years later someone someone uses the character in a totally different way. Keep in mind the whole reason Image Comics exists is that Rob and his cohorts wanted creative rights on their creations and Marvel doesn't work that way. Rob did have some rights though on Dealpool, Cable and maybe the idea of X-Force too I think. That's one of the reasons we saw them rebranded as Soldier X, Agent X and X-Statics. All that said, he couldn't have phrased his arguement worse if he tried. It was very insulting, no matter how much I get the broader point. I remember when Northstar outed himself and i read John Byrne's reactin to it. He was strangely more gratious about it by just saying that he never intended on JP "coming out". It would be implied and the clues would be there discreatly, but he wouldn;t never done that. It might have went on but that's the part that stuck with me.

By the way, Rob has been working on a relaunch of Killraven for Marvel, but I would have thought that would have started by now. It was announced a long time ago.

x a v i o r

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[Singularity]

I'm not a fan, but I feel compelled to bring up a possible different way to look at this. Not to cause trouble mind you but to kind of open the realms of possibilities. Is Liefeld perhaps miffed that asexuals are under represented??? I mean true asexuals. We have a smattering of LGBT here and there a smash of hetero but how many truly asexuals are in comic books let alone in a major comic house? Is it time for true asexuals?

Just would like to hear the thoughts - its funny because I listened to a recent Savage Love podcast dealing with the issue of asexuals in the LGBT community and I'd hate to think we would push someone into a sexual configuration if they just aren't wired to be so.

However I do agree that as a character "ages" by being passed on to different writers a creator can't complain that the current rendition wasn't what they originally thought of. Sorry C list character gets picked up and made into different things all the time now Hawkeye, Catman, Lockjaw, the list goes on. So he is a douche for whining about this but I think there is a point to be made about representing asexuals as well as other configurations of sexuality for characters that could make interesting addition to character drama potential.

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[howtaobrowncow]

I absolutely agree that asexual humans are underrepresented. (And I make the species distinction because there are plenty of asexual nonhumans... I haven't seen Galactus get any for a long time. But, then, maybe that's why he's always in such a bad mood? After sublimating sex into eating for 15 billion years, I'd probably be eating whole planets too. Although, you know what they say: "A billion years evolving, a lifetime on the hips.")

But I don't think Rob is nearly that sophisticated. In the discussion thread, he never answered that lady's question about whether he'd have been as upset if Shatterstar had ended up with a woman. I'd say that's because Rob thinks of himself as honest, and it was easier to forget the question than to look at it straight on and admit that, no, it wouldn't have bothered him as much. When you combine that with the "he's a warrior, he's not gay" and the "he's not gay, he was married", I think it makes it clear that it's the gay part that's got him worked up, not the departure from asexuality.

IMHO, of course. :-)

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[merboy]

I think Rob Liefeld hates Alan Moore because Rob's characters weren't critically acclaimed until Alan started writing them, and they stopped being critically acclaimed when Alan stopped writing them. I'm sure that must sting on some level.